I'm angry at that camera guy. But "murder mode?" Obviously a name that needs to be changed.

"I am Halo Reach, und zis is my Magic Murder Mode."

if bungie stuck with the original names they come up with for things, we'd be playing blam! aka "monkey nuts". i'm betting "murder mode" will change names but it has something to do w/ the special assassination moves that were talked about in the GI article.

edit: anyone else getting text garbage when clicking on the images?

No garbage here smurph.

But Murder Mode definitely needs a name change.

I can just imagine it, "Halo the most popular FPS includes 'Murder Mode' in next installment".

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yeah there's something weird with how he links to those images. if i right click -> save as and then open the image it works. i'm using chrome in linux so it could be a bug there as well. that's what i get for being bleeding edge i guess.

Its not real people, this is so obviously fake its hilarious. What's even funnier is the people believing this is real...

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i'm so glad you gave us such overwhelming evidence that this is fake...

we already know there's some sort of assassination move system where if you sneak up behind an enemy, you can take them out with one move (not just a boring melee like before). the computerized voice at the end obviously doesn't fit bungie's style but that could easily be just a placeholder for the yet-to-be-recorded voice. if i were developing games, that's probably how i would do it. i don't see why you think this is "obviously fake" but considering the sketchy source, i'm definitely remaining skeptical.

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I'm so glad you chose your words wisely

IGN has an article with a statement from Bungie saying it is indeed fake.

haha... the whole thing is awfully fishy. bungie normally doesn't respond to rumors like these so the fact that they're denying it is even more odd. PR stunt? seems unlikely but you never know.

Thank you MrxKnown, and congratulations smurph on realizing the obvious. "Murder Mode"? A screenshot from Halo 3 as the background for the menu? Two menu options and the old Halo title? The bungie icon in the lower part and the lack of any gameplay footage? What happened to any kind of a good loading screen like what was seen in 3 or ODST? A "placeholder" voice? I shouldn't have to give evidence, its such a fake and cry for attention you can almost hear the guy laughing at everyone who believes it...

Also, what else would they put that isn't melee, yet kills someone in one hit from behind and isn't terribly unfair? The assassination melee hit is fine, the only other thing they could possibly put in is a knife or something.

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i never said i believed it was real, i was just calling you out because you didn't give any reasons for your flat-out denial. you're failing to realize that the game is still in development. someone being sneaky and gaining access to a alpha/beta build would likely be missing pieces (loading screens, final voice recordings, menu options). i'm still not saying one way or the other. honestly, i'm just playing the devil's advocate to point out that your denial is unsubstantiated.

anyway, this little fluffy stuff does not get me excited even if it is real. i wait to hear from bungie or some more official source (GI, Edge) before getting excited about something.

the Reach beta should hit within the next few months. i look forward to playing it with all you guys.

Denial? Of what? I'm not in denial of anything, its proven that its a fake video. And my original post was not directed at you, so I could care less what you believe.

If you want more reasons to try to inform me that I'm in "denial" about that not being a legitimate test (which it isn't) then here: They wouldn't bother to put their logo in the main screen of the test, nor would they have chosen a background to use as a filler unless it was from the game they were working on or as a draft for the final. And if they were at that stage, they would either be testing out the loading screen or a cinematic, why even bother having placeholders for both in there if they could just start playing the game without the need for either?

You're not playing the devil's advocate, you're pursuing the belief that you need to appear to be in control of the comments and that I'm just not aware of what I'm saying all while using poor capitalization and lack of sentence structure. Stop it. I just started off with my expressed confusion at people's trust in an illegitimate "leaked" video from a suspicious source (I mean seriously, at this point people don't get that so much of the "leaked" crap that can't even show a screen is fake? Why would it have been leaked if it didn't even show anything to build anticipation off of?) and then reacted to your sarcasm and misinformed knowledge about the game.

Call me your britches-shrinker.

wow... calm down. i said i WAS playing the devil's advocate. i don't really care if its real or not. i'm just saying you were so quick to call it fake without saying why. i was more curious than anything.

i can verify it isn't fake. it's actually from the friends and family alpha. i don't think i need to provide any kind of proof or whatever, as track record with accuracy precedes me.

but the validity of it is irrelevant anyway. shows nothin'.

ps- this Wolfe guy has no idea what he's talking about. the screen is a placeholder using h3 assets.

-Facepalms- Alright smurph, whatever then. I am and was perfectly calm, I was just having a discussion with you. You told me that I was in denial, I merely was supporting my statement. If you had said it another way or not worded your post as to attack me directly, I would have only supplied reasons in a more "co-operative" way...

Zeal, its fake. Bungie is no longer owned by Microsoft, so they wouldn't put the copyright with Microsoft at the beginning. Not to mention a test just to test the campaign mission would not be called a beta for the public while not actually having the real campaign pieces in there. Look at the menu options Start Solo Game or Activities. No options, settings, multiplayer, or even campaign. If you want to give a legitimate reason why you think its real, go ahead.

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I'll always need proof.

you're still missing the point. its an alpha/beta build! it's most likely missing pieces! developers use rapid prototyping so they can show it off to testers and developers. lets say i'm a engineer and you're an audio guy. i want to see how something i wrote works in the latest build. i fire the game up and notice a long pause at the beginning and think there should be some music, voice, or cut-scene there, but there's not. that's weird and distracting. instead of that pause, you would have whipped something up and put that in its place even if you didn't have the final recording or even if you didn't have the script yet. you'd put SOMETHING there so i would know wtf is going on at the beginning. that's how most large scale development works. of course, you don't have to take my word for it, but i do have a BS in computer science (software development) and have been working for 4 years now.

also, microsoft owns the right to halo games and will be publishing all halo games going forward. this is bungie's last halo game.

forgive me for thinking you needed to be calmed down. i must have mis-interpreted your post (damn internet!)

@zeal - consider me interested... you've got connections?

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because i've been...well. anyway, i appreciate your observations, but i don't know what else to say other than you're mistaken. the microsoft logo is there because microsoft game studios is publishing the game. when you click the start solo game feature, it will simply say it is not available in this specific build. it is also not coincidence that Bungie immediately pulled all links to the video from their forum and issued bans. anyway, it's an honest mistake.

i'd like to enlighten you further, but certain NDA and legal obligations prevent me from discussing the game until about 2 more months.

also, please don't take me for some crackpot off the street or internet faker. bapenguin, the founder of this site, adheres to the same sorts of NDAs as myself, and we've been friends a while now.

peace.

Smurph, tone is very hard to transmit through type so I understand misinterpretation. I was unaware that microsoft did still publish the halo games, but it makes sense. I also know how game development works regarding these types of builds, and I'm not arguing that those methods are used, I'm just saying that it makes no sense in this video. And Xbox Evolved? That may be a legitimate thing, but whats the reason of having that logo and the bungie logo (which I was not aware had that sound effect accompanying it in the past) in a beta? I still stick to all my other points as to how this is fake, with the exception of the message at the start.

Zeal, you're so full of bs you could be a politician. Nobody cares if you are friends with the devs, what's the point in saying that if you are just going to say you can't reveal anything about the game? I interpret that as just a means to get attention for yourself.

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and no, you obviously don't.

ps- how come people with anime-related avatars are always the most disgruntled posters on every single forum lol.

xbox evolved is just a gaming web site that circulated the story & video. its pretty common practice for sites to slap their logo on a video like this. here's their original article:

http://xboxevolved.e-mpire.com/article/ ... /5986.html

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the fact that he thinks the xbox evolved logo is somehow a part of the alpha...

shouldn't that say everything.

Lol, its not anime related at all, I don't think you would enjoy knowing what it actually is. Makes sense about the logo, had never heard about xbox evolved (thanks for the link smurph), so my conclusion seems to be the logical next step in the thought process I was involved in, but I'm sure nothing like that happens with the all-knowing, famous and arrogant zeal...

--- Replying to Wolfe -----
look, lets just be cool, aight? i promise you, the second you catch me in BS or nonsense, you have permission to call me out before anyone. until then, give me a little time to bring some great exclusives to this forum. i promise you won't be disappointed.

when the Reach beta keys go out in the next few months, you have my word that i'll be more than generous to the posters of this forum. love and peace to all.

ps- assuming bungie doesn't pull a fast one on us and force everyone to use their ODST discs without the previous generosity of inviting players through promotions and viral marketing and such. i honestly don't know. we'll see.

--- Replying to Zeal -----
confused... i thought it was only accessible from ODST. are they handing out keys now too? did they do that for halo 3? i don't recall.

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just edited my post above because i really don't know the procedure this time. i don't want to make any false promises. i was able to give out about 50ish keys for H3 at our last forum, so i'm hoping the opportunity presents itself this time around.

yeah i noticed the edit after my post. i was too fast for you .

that would be nice if they did that. they handed out mythic map pack codes like candy at a parade so hopefully they'll be that generous again. at least they did the beta tie-in with a halo game this time and not crackdown. i have nothing against crackdown but it was probably a stretch for most halo fans. i suppose that's what M$ was going for though

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i think requiring everyone to buy ODST was a great marketing move, but knowing bungie's style, i really wouldn't doubt if the beta client is also presented as a downloadable alternative with a beta code. this would also give them the opportunity for additional marketing (which MS loves). it's too early to call what they're gonna do this time around. we'll see how it goes.