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Petition to Add Women to Aliens: Colonial Marines Multiplayer Triples Goal, Fans Want Strong Female Representation

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In an E3 live chat Gearbox producer Brian Burleson let it slip that players will not be able to play as female Marines in Aliens: Colonial MarinesThis came as a shock to fans of the series. Strong female characters are a hallmark of the Alien franchise. For Gearbox to not feature a female lead is more than a mere oversight, it's a tragedy. 

It seems that several sites have had a different take on Burleson's answer to a particular question concerning player choices. I've read articles that claim playable females have been totally scrapped from the game, and I've also seen outlets report that women will only be absent from the multiplayer modes. I dug up the Origin Live Chat to have myself a listen. As usual, I was left a little confused. The question comes at 28:25.

This video has a nice loop of multiplayer action and a lot of great information. Don't simply skip to the end.

If you heard what I heard (and my hearing is shot, by the way), someone named "Vasquez" (rad) asked Burleson "Will there be the choice to play as a female marine?" There was no indication of whether or not they were talking about the multiplayer or the regular campaign. 

Vazquez handles an M56A2 Smartgun that normally requires it's own damn personal crane. Vasquez > Drake

Burleson responded "No, sorry no..." (some pleading from the interviewer, can't say I blame him) "No, actually, no..." (Really..?) "Oh, yeah. Vasquez was one of my favorite characters..." (grumbled acceptance from the interviewer) "There's actually lots of girls in the game. It's not just all guys running around."

What the heck does that even mean? To the Speculation-A-Tron 5000!

Throughout the whole interview, Burleson and the interviewer discuss several aspects of the game. Everything from the HUD, to the weapons, to the cooperative campaign, to team deathmatch. Judging by Burleson's answer, one could deduce that female characters will not be playable in the game at all. But most of the questions focused on the multiplayer, so Burleson could have simply meant that particular mode would not have female characters, which he tried to rectify by mentioning "lots of girls in the game." No matter what the meaning, it got someone's attention.

An iPetition to "Include Playable Females in Aliens: Colonial Marines Multiplayer!" was started a few weeks ago. It has already received over 3000 signatures. That's not a huge number, but it's something that a decent amount of people (about 3323, or so) want. The petition is basically asking for a customizable female character in multiplayer:

What we want is the ability to create a CUSTOM female to represent ourselves just like the men can, in Multiplayer/Co-op in order for us to "Become a Colonial Marine" as well as accurately represent the other half of the United States Colonial Marine Corps!

I'm sure most of you know this is no small task, since animations, voices, and pretty much everything that goes into creating a playable character is different when creating males and females. But still, it's frick'n Aliens. The movie was full of badass men and women. A:CM  should carry the torch.

All hope is not lost. I was going over some of the media for the game and it seems likely that at least one woman will be playable in the campaign. We don't know much about the story, but we've seen the box art, and the character second from the left looks awfully feminine:

Dudes just don't wear hip-huggers that often. At least, not in public -and not while armed.

Of course, she may not be playable. She may just be there as window dressing, but I doubt it. She also appears in the promo graphic from Sega's Aliens: Colonial Marines page. Below she can be seen depicting "Additional Marine Customization." 

1. She's the one who looks like a woman. 2. She's sleeveless and her arms are NOT as big as a human head.

A little clarification from Gearbox would be nice. The petition has been out for over a month and they've kept mum on the situation. They're probably busy with Borderlands 2, so I'll forgive them. For now.

Preorder editions will include a code to unlock four male characters (Hudson, Apone, Hicks, and Drake) in the multiplayer modes. It would be nice if we could get Ripley, Vasquez, Dietrich, and Ferro.  But not Annalee Call. Never Annalee Call.

As I was tidying up this post (sorry for the length) I noticed a ray of hope through Twitter from Mikey Neumann, one of the lead writers for Gearbox and creative lead for A:CM. It looks like the standard PR voodoo is in full effect. Seems there's a lot more to the female side of the story, but Gearbox employees are remaining intentionally vague. A few of Neumann's tweets offer some clues:

@heathercampbell We all absolutely understand that within the franchise female Marines are paramount. This is part of the game

Speaking from a story perspective, the heart of the story in the game is a character named Bella. A female, and the best I've ever written.

I did what comes naturally and asked him an easily dodgeable question via Twitter, like a chump: "Is Bella the character from the box art? Or is that still hush-hush?"

His reply: "Yes." 

Damn. These guys are tricky. It's like talking to my wife.

As a huge Aliens fan, I think we should be able to play as female Colonial Marines, so I'll sign the petition. Some people say that online petitions don't solve anything, but they sure seemed to help the Dark Souls community bging the game to PC. (They also hit 100,000 signatures.)

Anyway, that's my opinion on the topic. What's yours?

I'll leave you with one of the greatest mother bear images in all of science fiction, shoot maybe in all of cinema:

I don't care who or what you are. You don't mess with that.

Aliens: Colonial Marines supports two player local co-op and four player online co-op. It will launch on February 12th on the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC.

Source: Alienscolonialmarines.net

 
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TheReaperCooL
10:09 AM
7/11/2012

Gearbox themselves said some months ago, that they are ALWAYS listening to their fanbase, and do what they think is best for them.

Now hear the gamers out, guys! They want chicks with guns, you should give it to them!


R2JUGGERNATE
10:28 AM
7/11/2012

I know I'm going to get labelled as a male chauvanist for saying this, but this whole ordeal is just silly in my opinion. The same people who defended the ending of mass effect 3 for 'artistic freedom' are the same people who are now telling Gearbox to change their artistic freedom by altering the characters. Furthermore, how the heck does a measly 2 or 3 thousand signatures get ANY recognition? That's a TINY percentage of the gaming community (hardly an outcry of public opinion). Female multiplayer skins are terrible because they keep the stats for carrying strength, melee strength, etc. the same as the male characters, and yet the female characters are smaller targets (it becomes an advantage to use the female skins). If all of this media attention adds the OPTION to use a female character in the CAMPAIGN, then I have no issue with it. But if female skins are put into multiplayer, it'll mess with the balance (again, I'd live with it, but it certainly wouldn't make the game better)


eastx
11:56 AM
7/11/2012

That wall of text is a bit poorly thought out, R2 Juggernaut. Comparing the ending of a story to adding more characters to a game (or a character better representative of the movies the game is based on) doesn't hold up well. There's no guarantee that said characters would actually have smaller hitboxes or imbalance the game in any way. Besides, the presence of female characters greatly increases the likelihood of real females being interested in playing, which is good for everybody.


R2JUGGERNATE
12:50 PM
7/11/2012

If it's artistic choice to make stories any way you (as the developer) want, then it should also be up to you to choose what characters fit your idea of the story (the Mass Effect argument is referring to the campaign characters, not the MP characters).. as far as the hitbox is concerned, I don't really see how it could be the same size for both genders unless they 1) make all the guys thin, 2) make all the girls bulky, or 3) have poor hit detection.. none of those options seem to make sense to me.. I'm not just spewing out excuses without past experience- combat arms and now blacklight retribution are prime examples of MP games where people use the female characters because they're harder to hit. Again, I'm not trying to say that I'll boycott it if they give in to these demands, but it just seems ridiculous that 3 thousand people could make a change like that. IF this works, then will Gearbox be discriminatory against handicaps if 3 thousand people want to play as a wheel-chair guy like in Alien4? Where and how do you draw the line? In the case of the Dark Souls petition, 100 thousand people indicates a large profit for Dark Souls developers-> therefore it makes sense to appease them. However, even if all 3 thousand people wouldnt buy ACM if it doesn't have female characters (which I doubt is the case), then the profit that just 3 thousand sales would make for Gearbox probably wouldn't even cover their costs for making the character models, paying voice actresses, etc. And while some girls may desire to be a female character, I completely disagree that it will 'greatly increase' the likelihood of them playing. My sister was just as interested in playing Halo Reach before they announced female skins in the multiplayer. And I don't know any girls who didn't want to play it and then changed their minds simply because the skins were included.


Mutant1988
1:44 PM
7/11/2012

R2JUGGERNATE, female characters have been done in games before, without any hitbox issues. That's just a stupid assumption to make.

And what is this bullshit about females being smaller (Shorter/slimmer) than men? Is there something wrong with them being as strong as men? Also, this is armed forces we're talking about. I'm pretty sure the few women that are part of those do measure up quite well to their male comrades.

"IF this works, then will Gearbox be discriminatory against handicaps if 3 thousand people want to play as a wheel-chair guy like in Alien4?"

When they can be reasonable expected to be a part of the events portrayed, yes. Note though, they don't amount to 50% of all mankind.

And honestly, it's ALIEN. The movie franchise is notorious for it's strong female lead (In an action role). One of the first and one of the best. Of course it should have female characters, campaign and multiplayer.


Errant Paradigm
3:16 PM
7/11/2012

I get the bizarre nature of ignoring the strong females, however this is a very capable team that make some great games. Besides, they are creating a story in this universe, so I will agree with the decisions they make to do so.

I hope they don't change anything, because I am already annoyed with this trend after ME3. If the game is well done when it hits, then be thankful. If the game is crap, blame it on the lack of playable female characters if you must. Do not, however, try and force your ideas on completely competent game developers, because you have nothing better to whine about or deal with in your REAL life.


R2JUGGERNATE
3:24 PM
7/11/2012

@Mutant1988
Hey man, it's cool if you disagree with me, I didn't mean to tick anyone off.. just giving my opinion. And I'm not saying some girls don't make good soldiers (they can be great shots, sound tactically, etc.). However, if you don't believe that men, in general, are physically bigger than women, in general, then I don't think you are correct. "the average U.S. male stands 5' 9.1 tall and weighs 180 pounds" and "the average U.S. woman is 5' 3.7 (162 centimeters) tall and weighs 152 pounds (69 kilograms)".. Those stats can be found rather easily. In terms of strength, women and men are similar when compared pound to pound. However, men, in general, can put on more pounds of muscle than women can. That's why in sports like rock-climbing, women can easily compete with men (strengthweight ratio) as opposed to the strong-man competitions (total strength/ carrying capacity). -> this is getting off topic so I'll stop there but the point is, it's not BS. And while women account for even more than 50% of mankind,they definitely do not account for anywhere near 50% of gamers. If all of a sudden this petition takes off and gets huge numbers, then sure, it makes sense for Gearbox to listen. But it's only because sexism is such a media hot topic that this petition gets attention when its numbers are so small. THAT was my point. I'm 100% behind equal opportunity in our society. I just get tired of people crying 'sexist' whenever it could possibly be taken that way.


grommyfrog
3:36 PM
7/11/2012

With the amount of time that has passed since this game was annouced, I would think players would let a lack of female characters slide instead of asking for another delay to it's release.

How long has it been? Five or six years now? Why not ask for Female DLC characters or something a few months after it's launch?


Silentstriderm
3:38 PM
7/11/2012

Artistic License shouldn't be an excuse to do a poor job. I would have been fine with the Mass Effect ending the way it was if they hadn't been saying all along that all of your choices mattered, every players ending would be different, etc. etc.

For Casey Hudson to give an interview in January of this year and say the following 2 months before launch is what made me mad .



Does that sound like the endings that shipped with the game to you? Nope. Me neither.


Biohzrd451
3:41 PM
7/11/2012

--- Replying to Silentstriderm -----

Well to be honest you didnt get A,B, or C you got Red Green and blue.


Mutant1988
11:04 PM
7/11/2012

R2JUGGERNATE, even if there is a size difference, the hitbox dissonance will be negligible (Because they will use the same hitbox). Especially considering that the opposite team is entirely melee based.

"But it's only because sexism is such a media hot topic that this petition gets attention when its numbers are so small."

I disagree. As stated, Alien is notable for it's strong female lead (And Vasquez, Dietrich and Ferro in Aliens). So I think it's only appropriate for a game based on this property to be so too.

This is something that should have been planned to implement from the beginning, we should honestly not have to demand this.

"Why not ask for Female DLC characters or something a few months after it's launch?"

I like owning what I purchase, so I'd rather just have it on disc. Then again, I'm sure the multiplayer won't include a LAN option as usual. Which means I'll lose all of it anyway, later down the line.


ahleung
6:37 AM
7/12/2012

Let's see if Gearbox would keep their own artistic integrity this time

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine. ... -3-ending/

Mikey Newman, lead writer of Aliens Colonial Marines, %u201CDon%u2019t do the thing that makes people write petitions on the internet. You have no right to petition people in art %u2026.God damn it%u2026You don%u2019t I don%u2019t give a sh*t. That%u2019s on me, that%u2019s not gearbox that%u2019s totally me. You have no right to petition artists to change their art. You can not like it, you can not buy it, you can not enjoy it, that%u2019s fine, bitch all you want you can not petition them.%u201D


kelkil79
11:59 PM
7/13/2012

Add my vote for the developers, I'm not particularly against women in games but to make a deal out of this is just stupid and a waste of time. There are plenty of strong women represented in a lot of games, in fact they are over represented compared to the percentages of women gamers to men gamers. I hate it when people try to turn a non-issue into an issue like with Resident evil 5, "OMG it's a race issue." Let them make the game if you don't like it don't buy it.


Macrocephalus
8:37 AM
7/14/2012

Artistic integrity is about artists making honest statements they believe in and standing by them. What's the statement made by making an Aliens game without women? "We assumed we could get away with it?" "We didn't actually give any thought to the naure and meaning of the first two movies, so it didn't even occur to us that there ought to be some women in our game"?

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