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Claptrap's New Robot Revolution is the fourth DLC for the 2009 4 player co-op sleeper hit Borderlands.  The first thing you need to know about this DLC is that the level cap has not yet been increased and the enemies have not been re-balanced.  So if you have hit the level cap of 61 get ready for a five hour cakewalk that will net you mid-level 50 loot. 

A 2K Games PR Representative tells us that a free patch is supposed to be ready for the October 12 release of the  Game of the Year edition.  This patch will raise the cap to 69 and re-balance the enemies.

Like the three previous DLCs, CNRR is accessible through the Fast Travel Network.  Once you've reached the new area, Tartarus Station, a familiar face greets you and sends you on your first quest.  This first task takes you to a new but familiar area where, surprise, surprise, you shoot masked bandits in a junkyard. 

Once you've ventured a little ways into the area some new enemies make an appearance.  The first are Hyperion Soldiers, which are similar to the Crimson Lance.  The second are weaponized Claptraps, and they are awesome.  Claptraps have become a polarizing figure in Borderlands, as gamers have found them either funny and charming or curse-inducing annoyances. 

The only good Claptrap...

These warrior Claptraps cater to both parties.  For those of you who like the little 'bots, they are dressed like samurais, boxers, soldiers, and other characters.  They also make jokes as they attack you mercilessly.  On the other hand, they repeat the jokes over and over again, but now you can shoot them.  You can shoot them right in their cyclopean faces every time they say, "How do you like them apples?"  No. Really.  You're going to hear that about a thousand times. 

The main quest is succinctly called Operation Trap Claptrap Trap, which involves tracking down the Interplanetary Ninja Assassin Claptrap, whom veterans of the game should be familiar with.  A representative from the Hyperion Corporation is your benefactor, and he'll dish out the main quest missions. 

But this is Borderlands, right?  You're not here for plot, you're here for loot!

And that is the main problem with this DLC.  As I mentioned earlier, the level cap has not increased.  I don't think I'm going too far out on a limb in assuming that if you're buying this DLC you're probably capped out.  None of the enemies are level 60, which means there are no high level loot drops.  Without loot or leveling you simply have another average, brown-colored shooter.

I trusted you.

It's a shame, too, because all the other Borderlands goodness is in there.   The humor is over the top. There is some new moody combat music.  The new areas are large and fit in well with the Borderlands universe.  There are abundant movie references.  There are plenty of boss battles accompanied by small, lootable weapons caches.  Too bad the weapons are under-leveled and underpowered.  There are more new enemies than just the Hyperion Soldiers and Claptraps, but I won't spoil them for you.  It should also be noted that vehicle combat, which was a main focus of Secret Armory, it totally absent here.  And there are still no  Fast Travel stations, which means you'll be hoofing it between areas.

The Secret Armory of General Knoxx felt like a nice ending to Borderlands.  Claptrap's New Robot Revolution doesn't feel as polished, mainly because of the balancing issues. If you are a level 55 or lower, you will find the same enjoyment here as you have in the other installments.  In the past Gearbox has done a great job in giving their fans what they want.  I feel that they have done their fans and themselves a disservice by releasing this DLC too early.  I cannot stress enough how lackluster this content is if you are at the level cap.  Wait for the patch or the GOTY edition.  Until then, here's the trailer, once again narrated by Marcus.

Update:  It has come to my attention that if you have beaten Crawmerax the Invincible and turned in the mission at the Bounty Board in T-Bone Junction the game will scale to level 61 players appropriately.  You need The Secret Armory of General Knoxx DLC.  I decided to check it out for myself, and this is 100% true.  The enemies are harder and the loot is better.   A detail of the enemy scaling can be found in the Gearbox Forums.  Big thanks to Swissy Jim for pointing it out!  It should also be noted that there is still no level cap increase, and I still recommend on waiting for patch (due out in a couple of weeks) if you have hit the level cap.  Happy looting!

    

 
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bapenguin
12:45 PM
9/29/2010

Being only a 46 right now I enjoyed what little played, but its easy to see if its a cakewalk it not being any fun.


pheriannath
12:48 PM
9/29/2010

My main character is only level 50, so I'm having a pretty great time with this one.

The Claptrap spewing a parody of the opening monologue of Bioshock was pretty great.


Armor Biff
12:51 PM
9/29/2010

I bought the DLC yesterday and played a few hours with a friend. Some funny moments (bosses) and same cool Borderlands feel as the main game and previous DLC. The new level cap will make things interesting as well, my hunter is 58 at the moment.


SwissyJim
1:11 PM
9/29/2010

If you have defeated Crawermax, and turned in the quest, the baddie levels should be 61 according gearbox forums.I'll be verifying later today...


Cubninja
1:16 PM
9/29/2010

I hate admitting this, but I've got two level 61 characters(Brick/Lilith), a level 57(Roland), a 50(mordecai), and almost half a dozen others in their 20's. I kind of get addicted to some games. I had a need to max out each class in co-op, and then do it again solo. Thank God something shiny distracted me.


Deriaz
1:37 PM
9/29/2010

I hope they scrap the "need to defeat Crawmerax" idea if that's true, Jim. My friend and I have slowly gotten our two Hunters to 61, but Crawmerax was just too much for us. We couldn't even dent him, we got blown up so fast. I would hope the enemies just scale automatically, because asking a player to defeat the hardest (or so I'm told, given Claptrap impressions) boss in the game just so another DLC will be an actual challenge is silly.

Regardless, my friend and I picked this up on release. We haven't gotten to do much, since he says he's gotten burnt out on Borderlands recently, but we really enjoyed what we saw. The little quotes we've heard are hilarious, and we really like the outfits on some of the Claptraps. Hoping the enemies become a bit tougher later (still think it's bad design to have to beat a guy in a different DLC just to have an appropriate scaling in a different one), but so far, we're liking it.


SwissyJim
1:54 PM
9/29/2010

Here's the link to how the enemies scale...

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/sh ... ostcount=7

I have a Siren and a Soldier I have beaten Craw with (I'll admit I glitched with the Soldier) so I'll be able to verify the scaling. Either way, I know I'll like it - it's Borderlands, it's got humor, and I FINALLY get to kill a damn claptrap. I have no idea on how many rounds of ammo I've wasted on them, but after awhile they are so annoying I'd be remiss in NOT shooting them LOL

Also, I'll be on later playing (PC) if someone wants to play it... Roboluion is only on my laptop gamespy account at this point (SwissyJim_G73)


Deriaz
2:36 PM
9/29/2010

--- Replying to SwissyJim -----

Well, that shattered my hopes a little.

I'm all for humor and stuff, but I was really hoping we wouldn't be one/two-shotting things for the entire DLC. I might end up being the case, though. That's a bummer.


SwissyJim
2:55 PM
9/29/2010

well, I hate to say it but you can always use the 'glitch' to beat Craw... (or 'GOD' mode on PC version...) I did it with my soldier since I wanted the higher enemies in Robo, and lost my entire cash account trying to beat Craw with him. I lost something to the tune of 50 million dieing over and over... and over and over...

Beating Craw with a Siren is way WAY easier.

Or join a game that has the Craw mission completed...


Sidhavok
3:59 PM
9/29/2010

Deriaz what system do you play on i can help you beat craw.
I'm on ps3 let me know


TheReaperCooL
4:21 PM
9/29/2010

I play with the PC version, and I have beaten every mission. Now I got the DLC, I am level 61, and I see level 60-62 enemies everywhere, and I can't level up. It's so annoying, but I don't care, because it's Borderlands. Me and my friend will have a great time tomorrow finishing this


Deriaz
4:29 PM
9/29/2010

I'm on the PC. I know of a glitch spot that freezes him in place, and another you can use for cover. I hate saying it, but I might have to run through and do that so my friend and I will have an adequately leveled Robolution.

I guess I'm lucky I didn't really need the cash for anything. I should say my final farewells to my wallet, I think.


SwissyJim
4:32 PM
9/29/2010

--- Replying to TheReaperCooL -----

Leveling past 61 will not happen until the new patch comes out in the next few weeks... it is totally separate from this DLC.


Deriaz
4:57 PM
9/29/2010

Looks like I can't actually solo Crawmerax; don't have the right stuff. I can get every point down except for his back, which I've never actually seen. And none of my weapons actually ricochet. Nor do I have Leviathan, or have ever seen it.

That's a shame, I suppose. Not wanting to join three random strangers online just to solve it. Nor do I want to mod in any weapons to do it for me. I'll have to live with the easy-mode DLC.


WildCard Zen
1:10 AM
9/30/2010

--- Replying to Deriaz -----


There's a very easy trick to beating Crawmerax, but it takes 2 characters to do it. I even do this with split-screen and control both characters. For your main one, make sure you have 1 scoped weapon with explosive mod (Sniper rifle preferred) to use on Crawmerax, 1 scoped with biohazard mod for the small super-fast grubs, and 1 scoped electric mod for the mid-sized bugs.

Use a Siren as bait at the beginning. Then take your main character and run to the very far left side as fast as you can. If your main one is Roland, then drop your turret as you run. Both the turret and Lilith will keep them occupied until you hit the "Sweet spot" hidey-hole. The spot is right on the wall where a double ledge ends. Hide there and crouch low. It may take more than 1 try to get there.

Once you're there - all your teammates need to do is stay as far away from you as possible - even stay below in the cavern if they have to. From your spot, you can pick off each limb and the eye, even drop the smaller varmits. STAY LOW AND DON'T MOVE! Snipe from that spot! But if the spot on the back is where you're struggling, then have Lilith draw Crawmerax's attention. When he turns his back to go after her - BLAM!

Yes, I have farmed Crawmerax like this 3 times by myself. I've also played around some Borderlands forums - this is not a glitch, though it may feel like one. I think of it more like deer hunting from a deer stand, only Crawmerax hunt from a Craw-blind.


WildCard Zen
1:15 AM
9/30/2010

Dunno how this double posted. oh, well . . .


Deriaz
8:26 AM
9/30/2010

My friend and I got it eventually. I had been using that spot on the rock that stops Crawmerax, but that back spot was the only thing giving me trouble. I discovered if you shoot at just the right spot, during just the right frame of his roaring animation, you can hit his back through his front. After 25 minutes or so and only hitting it twice, I just brought in my friend, explained the situation, and we went for it.

I had him stay underground until everything but the back was dead. Then he came up and right to the right to distract the big guy until I could get a clear shot at his back, which was harder than it sounds since apparently having another player running around in the open breaks the ledge spot, so the enemies know where you are.

Regardless, it's done. Probably not going to go back to Crawmerax for awhile -- he didn't drop anything too great anyways -- but I still say it was a poor decision. One DLC shouldn't impact another, given you aren't required to do them in order, they don't reference each other in any large, significant way (like a sequence in a story), nor are they mandatory to buy.

Just curious why they chose this method of scaling. It doesn't seem entirely thought out.


freecks
4:25 PM
10/4/2010

So my wife and I finally got to try this new DLC out last night. We're both lvl 40 and probably need to arm up a little better. We're on PT2 and needless to say, we got destroyed by lvl 43 brutes. Three of them to be exact. Time to lvl up one more lvl then try it again. lol!


Lilfud61
9:28 PM
10/5/2010

Hey I gotta a Question for ya?? I just downloaded the Clp-trp DLC(I LOVE IT BTW). Question is-will the patch apply automatically for the lvl 69 upgrade??? Currently I'm a 58!


blakepro
2:07 PM
12/16/2010

This DLC will be discounted starting December 21st.

Borderland's Claptrap New Revolution Discounted Price: 400 Savings: 50%

I'm thinking about picking it up.


Source:

http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/12/ ... -2010.aspx


Biohzrd451
2:55 PM
12/16/2010

--- Replying to blakepro -----

May end up picking it up if it is still on sale when I get paid.

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